"Casual observers might have been surprised by the anger and vitriol in a recent email from a Cone Health official to leaders of the State Health Plan.
But Cone Assistant Director of Finance Frank Kauder’s impassioned diatribe was just the most extreme salvo in a long-simmering feud pitting North Carolina’s major health care systems against state Treasurer Dale Folwell, the health plan’s supervisory board and those who speak for thousands of state employees.
“Your plan to cut payments to hospitals could possibly be the most moronic idea I have ever seen come out of our state government,” Kauder said in his blunt critique that closed by urging the recipients to “burn in hell you sorry (SOBs).”
Backed by the State Employees Association of North Carolina, Folwell has been trying since last year to clarify in precise, contractual terms what health care systems can charge for each of the various conditions and ailments they treat.
The aim is to bring down costs overall and make sure that plan members know in advance what various treatments likely will cost them.
Folwell said ...what hospitals and other health-care providers are charging the State Health Plan for their services must be lowered significantly in a “transparent” format with pricing that everyone can understand.
“These days, people don’t consume health care. It consumes them,” Folwell said.
...“We’ve been asking since 2011 for transparency,” said Ardis Watkins, director of government relations for the state employees association. “We’ve seen state audit after state audit saying, ‘You need to know what you’re paying.’”
“The system is not broken. It was designed that way,” Watkins said of the current pricing regime. “But we are not tolerating the way the system is designed any more.”
..."It’s great that university and other state employees occasionally get pay raises, he said. But if the cost of their health care rises dramatically, the value of any increase declines proportionately", And for those employees who have seen little or no salary growth in recent years, “you have a situation where you’re actually going backward”...
https://www.greensboro.com/news/local_news/state-workers-worry-about-health-coverage-as-cone-health-state/article_45185911-32d5-5a11-8ab7-e310f2625147.html
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Ed Cone is on the Cone Health Board Of Trustees
What's your defense of non-transparency Ed?
https://www.conehealth.com/about-us/board-of-trustees/
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"Cone Health's CEO also said in an internal email that the Clear Pricing Project would cost the hospital an additional $26 million. We asked the treasurer where that number came from.
He says he has no idea where that number came from. He went on to say that Cone Health says the state health plan makes up only 5% of their revenue but they claim that it will cost them 50% of their profit.
"Those two numbers just don't add up," he added.
https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/2-wants-to-know/state-treasurer-dale-folwell-speaks-on-the-cone-health-state-health-plan-debate/83-11b6f582-10d9-4017-af66-8d8abc909c8b
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2/17/14; A conversation between Ed Cone and George Hartzman on Obamacare etc...
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-conversation-between-ed-cone-and.html
3/18/14; Words I intend to deliver to Greensboro's City Council this evening on Medicaid expansion in North Carolina
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/03/words-i-intend-to-deliver-to.html
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Other notable Cone Health Board Of Trustees;
J. Edward Kitchen
David F. Leeper
M. Lee McAllister
Carole Simms
Notable Cone Health Foundation Board Of Trustees;
Tom Cone
Attorney
Ott, Cone & Redpath, PA
Ross Harris
Executive Director, NC Institute of Political Leadership
Rev. Chesley "Ches" Kennedy
Director of Development University of North Carolina at Greensboro
College of Arts and Sciences
Afrique Kilimanjaro
Newspaper Editor, The Carolina Peacemaker
Robert Pompey, Jr.
Vice Chancellor for Business and Finance
North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
https://www.conehealthfoundation.com/foundation/about-us/board-of-directors/
How many lawsuits has Cone Health filed against patients over the last five years?
How many lives ruined?
Cone Health CEO Terry Akins made more than $1.7 million in 2017.
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/07/how-many-lawsuits-has-cone-health-filed.html
Cone Health 2017 990;
https://pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/2017/581/588/2017-581588823-0fa52eaf-9.pdf
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"Cone's facilities, doctors could be out-of-network for state employees starting Jan. 1 after the health-care system rejects new reimbursement plan
Cone Health said Monday it will not sign a contract for the State Health Plan's new reimbursement program, meaning Cone's facilities and doctors could be out-of-network for state employees starting Jan. 1, 2020.
Cone is the first Triad health-care system to reject the Clear Pricing Project contract championed by state Treasurer Dale Folwell.
Folwell launched in October his attempt to move the SHP to a government pricing model tied to Medicare reimbursement rates, which typically are lower than hospitals currently receive for services.
...Cone reported Nov. 28 that net patient revenue was up 7.7% to $1.78 billion for fiscal 2018, which ended Sept. 30. It reported $110.4 million in "excess revenue," which is akin to profit for a for-profit organization.
https://www.greensboro.com/business/cone-s-facilities-doctors-could-be-out-of-network-for/article_be80f2e5-f4de-56c8-8abb-311136910335.html
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Allen Johnson's deafening silence on N.C. Treasurer Folwell's plan to increase transparency and lower healthcare costs
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/04/allen-johnsons-deafening-silence-on-nc.html
Cone Health is a Racket;
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/03/cone-health-is-racket.html
How many families did Cone Health force into bankruptcy last year?
Cone Health's success at stealing from patients and bankrupting families within our local overpriced healthcare monopoly
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/08/ed-cone-on-cone-healths-success-at.html
Our healthcare system is a legal theft racket supported by our nation's media industry
What Warren Buffett's outlets won't report; "Colombia Fears U.S. May Reject Peace Plan To Protect Pharma Profits"
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/05/what-warren-buffetts-outlets-wont.html
The Healthcare Industry is a legal racket
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-healthcare-industry-is-legal-racket.html
A few tidbits on Social Security and Medicare and our nation's other "non-discretionary" social spending too many are relying on
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2015/08/a-few-tidbits-on-social-security-and.html
Greensboro City Council succumbs to extortion by UnitedHealthcare
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/07/greensboro-city-council-succumbs-to.html
America is getting Ripped Off on Healthcare
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/01/america-is-getting-ripped-off-on.html
From Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina to an EZGreensboro.com reader; A 425% increase in health care insurance premium for 2018
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/10/from-blue-cross-blue-shield-of-north.html
But Cone Assistant Director of Finance Frank Kauder’s impassioned diatribe was just the most extreme salvo in a long-simmering feud pitting North Carolina’s major health care systems against state Treasurer Dale Folwell, the health plan’s supervisory board and those who speak for thousands of state employees.
“Your plan to cut payments to hospitals could possibly be the most moronic idea I have ever seen come out of our state government,” Kauder said in his blunt critique that closed by urging the recipients to “burn in hell you sorry (SOBs).”
Backed by the State Employees Association of North Carolina, Folwell has been trying since last year to clarify in precise, contractual terms what health care systems can charge for each of the various conditions and ailments they treat.
For example?
Nothing by the News and Record's lead investigative reporter
The aim is to bring down costs overall and make sure that plan members know in advance what various treatments likely will cost them.
For example?
Why not pick something Cone Health refuses to clarify?
Provide an example of what Cone Health does clarify.
Folwell said ...what hospitals and other health-care providers are charging the State Health Plan for their services must be lowered significantly in a “transparent” format with pricing that everyone can understand.
“These days, people don’t consume health care. It consumes them,” Folwell said.
...“We’ve been asking since 2011 for transparency,” said Ardis Watkins, director of government relations for the state employees association. “We’ve seen state audit after state audit saying, ‘You need to know what you’re paying.’”
“The system is not broken. It was designed that way,” Watkins said of the current pricing regime. “But we are not tolerating the way the system is designed any more.”
Why didn't Taft Wireback note Cone Health CEO Terry Akins
made more than $1.7 million in 2017?
..."It’s great that university and other state employees occasionally get pay raises, he said. But if the cost of their health care rises dramatically, the value of any increase declines proportionately", And for those employees who have seen little or no salary growth in recent years, “you have a situation where you’re actually going backward”...
https://www.greensboro.com/news/local_news/state-workers-worry-about-health-coverage-as-cone-health-state/article_45185911-32d5-5a11-8ab7-e310f2625147.html
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Ed Cone is on the Cone Health Board Of Trustees
What's your defense of non-transparency Ed?
https://www.conehealth.com/about-us/board-of-trustees/
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"It's [Clear Pricing Project] been looked at, in 1990, 2000, and 2010.
This has been looked at for 30 years.
And it's the reason why the state health plan
is one of the most insolvent in the United States."
North Carolina Treasurer Dale Folwell
"Cone Health's CEO also said in an internal email that the Clear Pricing Project would cost the hospital an additional $26 million. We asked the treasurer where that number came from.
Cone reported Nov. 28 that net patient revenue was up 7.7% to $1.78 billion for fiscal 2018.
It reported $110.4 million in "excess revenue,"
which is akin to profit for a for-profit organization.
Greensboro's News and Record
He says he has no idea where that number came from. He went on to say that Cone Health says the state health plan makes up only 5% of their revenue but they claim that it will cost them 50% of their profit.
"Those two numbers just don't add up," he added.
https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/2-wants-to-know/state-treasurer-dale-folwell-speaks-on-the-cone-health-state-health-plan-debate/83-11b6f582-10d9-4017-af66-8d8abc909c8b
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2/17/14; A conversation between Ed Cone and George Hartzman on Obamacare etc...
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/02/a-conversation-between-ed-cone-and.html
3/18/14; Words I intend to deliver to Greensboro's City Council this evening on Medicaid expansion in North Carolina
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/03/words-i-intend-to-deliver-to.html
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Other notable Cone Health Board Of Trustees;
J. Edward Kitchen
David F. Leeper
M. Lee McAllister
Carole Simms
These folks don't want their customers knowing
how much Cone Health charges for services
before services are provided.
It's a mandatory part of the role to be a board member
of an organization which fleeces it's patients.
Notable Cone Health Foundation Board Of Trustees;
Tom Cone
Attorney
Ott, Cone & Redpath, PA
Ross Harris
Executive Director, NC Institute of Political Leadership
Rev. Chesley "Ches" Kennedy
Director of Development University of North Carolina at Greensboro
College of Arts and Sciences
Afrique Kilimanjaro
Newspaper Editor, The Carolina Peacemaker
Robert Pompey, Jr.
Vice Chancellor for Business and Finance
North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
https://www.conehealthfoundation.com/foundation/about-us/board-of-directors/
How many lawsuits has Cone Health filed against patients over the last five years?
How many lives ruined?
Cone Health CEO Terry Akins made more than $1.7 million in 2017.
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/07/how-many-lawsuits-has-cone-health-filed.html
Cone Health 2017 990;
https://pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/2017/581/588/2017-581588823-0fa52eaf-9.pdf
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.
"Cone's facilities, doctors could be out-of-network for state employees starting Jan. 1 after the health-care system rejects new reimbursement plan
Cone Health said Monday it will not sign a contract for the State Health Plan's new reimbursement program, meaning Cone's facilities and doctors could be out-of-network for state employees starting Jan. 1, 2020.
Cone is the first Triad health-care system to reject the Clear Pricing Project contract championed by state Treasurer Dale Folwell.
Folwell launched in October his attempt to move the SHP to a government pricing model tied to Medicare reimbursement rates, which typically are lower than hospitals currently receive for services.
...Cone reported Nov. 28 that net patient revenue was up 7.7% to $1.78 billion for fiscal 2018, which ended Sept. 30. It reported $110.4 million in "excess revenue," which is akin to profit for a for-profit organization.
https://www.greensboro.com/business/cone-s-facilities-doctors-could-be-out-of-network-for/article_be80f2e5-f4de-56c8-8abb-311136910335.html
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Allen Johnson's deafening silence on N.C. Treasurer Folwell's plan to increase transparency and lower healthcare costs
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/04/allen-johnsons-deafening-silence-on-nc.html
Cone Health is a Racket;
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2019/03/cone-health-is-racket.html
How many families did Cone Health force into bankruptcy last year?
Cone Health's success at stealing from patients and bankrupting families within our local overpriced healthcare monopoly
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/08/ed-cone-on-cone-healths-success-at.html
Our healthcare system is a legal theft racket supported by our nation's media industry
What Warren Buffett's outlets won't report; "Colombia Fears U.S. May Reject Peace Plan To Protect Pharma Profits"
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/05/what-warren-buffetts-outlets-wont.html
The Healthcare Industry is a legal racket
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-healthcare-industry-is-legal-racket.html
A few tidbits on Social Security and Medicare and our nation's other "non-discretionary" social spending too many are relying on
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2015/08/a-few-tidbits-on-social-security-and.html
Greensboro City Council succumbs to extortion by UnitedHealthcare
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/07/greensboro-city-council-succumbs-to.html
America is getting Ripped Off on Healthcare
http://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/01/america-is-getting-ripped-off-on.html
From Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina to an EZGreensboro.com reader; A 425% increase in health care insurance premium for 2018
https://greensboroperformingarts.blogspot.com/2017/10/from-blue-cross-blue-shield-of-north.html
#Monopolies in the health care industry have a greater effect on consumers than previously thought. In this @Benefits_PRO article, learn what an @openmarkets report found to be the cause of rising costs and market concentration: https://t.co/ulRtg9IfJz pic.twitter.com/PM3d13Y1HL— DirectPath (@DirectPathHLTH) July 12, 2019
Get a good job so you can afford to keep paying the health care corporations more and more. America; this is what we have become. Health care costs are rising faster than incomes. Greed has no limits.— PastryPlate (@PastryPlate) July 10, 2019
This is disappointing but not surprising news. This bill gets at the heart of one of the biggest drivers of rising health care costs - exorbitant hospital bills - and big legislative proposals are never easy. Kudos to @DavidChiu and @Scott_Wiener for taking this on. https://t.co/rN9KdE69mT— Emily Rusch (@emilyrusch) July 10, 2019
Excerpts from my 3/26/2014 Yes Weekly Article; "On Medicaid Expansion in North Carolina" ACA, Obamacare, CBO, SGR and the Doc Fix
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/03/excerpts-from-my-3262014-yes-weekly.html
Dear Greensboro's Andrew Brod, On the Affordable Care Act (ACA) (Obamacare) and Deficit Projections, of which Dr. Brod was Incorrect
"...according to the Congressional Budget Office, the ACA as a whole, including Medicaid expansion, will slightly reduce the deficit during the next 10 years, precisely because it includes various taxes and fees. Expanding Medicaid might mean bigger government, but not a bigger deficit.
Andrew Brod
March 28, 2014
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/06/dear-greensboros-andrew-brod-on.html
3/19/14; Dr. Andrew Brod, my deadline for this article is Monday morning at 10am.
I believe you are not telling the truth. If you would like to provide proof that you are not, please do so, otherwise the following should be published in Yes Weekly next Wednesday;
"On March 21, 2014, the Obama administration's Whitehouse.gov stated "the Affordable Care Act reduces the deficit, saving over $200 billion over 10 years".
In online debates at Council Member Tony Wilkins' Facebook page and Ed Cone's blog before and after the council debate, UNCG Senior Research Fellow Dr. Andrew Brod stated "It's silly to say that the ACA is "mathematically unsustainable." The best math we have on this are projections by the CBO [Congressional Budget Office], indicate that the ACA is quite sustainable. The CBO projects that the ACA will (slightly) reduce the federal deficit” and "the ACA will reduce the federal deficit over time, precisely because "how we pay for it" has already been nailed down in the law."
Directly contradicting the Obama administration and Dr. Brod's assertions, Table B-1 of a February, 2014 report by the CBO entitled "Effects on the Deficit of the Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act" says the Net Cost of Coverage Provisions to the federal government is projected to be $1.487 Trillion between 2015 and 2024."
https://hartzman.blogspot.com/2014/03/dr-andrew-brod-my-deadline-for-this.html
Guilford County's 10 largest employers
Aug 26, 2018
2. Cone Health
Employees: 9,287
Leadership: Terry Akin, CEO; F.D. Hornaday III, board chairman
Integrated not-for-profit network of health care providers serving Guilford, Forsyth, Rockingham, Alamance, Randolph, Caswell and surrounding counties. ... Ranked by U.S. News and World Report as the state’s seventh best hospital in 2018-19. ... Has more than 12,000 employees, 1,300 physicians and 1,200 volunteers across the region. ... Its network comprises more than 100 locations, including six hospitals, three ambulatory care centers, three outpatient surgery centers and three urgent care centers. ... Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital, a 517-bed teaching hospital and referral center in Greensboro, is the flagship. ... Opened in 1953.
https://www.greensboro.com/business/guilford-county-s-largest-employers/article_10e019a3-da46-5c58-98e5-d0dcd063e854.html?fbclid=IwAR3CcommTf1FSbQOONEy17z_K2tNhJRB-1Q854fObDZ55HYVzwbyyOh-ZSA
da freemasonic health care system is a rip off pic.twitter.com/TIqO2LKHtC— ●GHOZT_TRAMP● (@GHOZTTRAMP) July 5, 2019
Why not reveal how much corruption in Congress has contributed to the cost of health care making it so insurers can rip off patients at insurers’ whim?— Lulah (@Lulah) July 11, 2019
Health care is so expensive because no one understands what anything costs. Even most of the health care professionals in the hospital don't understand it!— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) April 24, 2019
And that makes it incredibly easy to rip people off in ways that in any other industry would put you in jail.
I will say it again. American health care is run like a criminal enterprise. Hospitals just make up prices and charge as much as they can possibly get away with. So hospital networks are buying up to create monopolies so they can rip you off even more. https://t.co/b0WVeahC4W— Jon Walker (@JonWalkerDC) October 22, 2018
US health care companies will often rip people off by assigning more staff than necessary or using CPT coding (for billing) that don’t relate to the treatment. If something sounds odd aggressively question it. They don’t care about people they care about profit.— Steve Rowe π¬π§πͺπΊπ¨π¦π³️π (@stevendrowe) May 26, 2018