Saturday, November 12, 2016

Just in case any of those involved with Say Yes to Education want to say they didn't know

date: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:41 PM

from: George Hartzman
to: Richard Moore <>,

The questions below were never answered
by Donnie Turlington, former City of Greensboro Communications Director
and now Say Yes Guilford's Communications Director
with Say Yes Guilford's Executive Director Mary Vigue
who was on the Say Yes Executive Director search committee 
as a City of Greensboro employee assigned to the Say Yes initiative
who negotiated a $1 lease for space in Greensboro's downtown library
while angling to get the job for herself
in violation of the City's charter concerning conflicts of interest

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date: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:41 PM

subject: Re: Questions about Say Yes

Donnie, as both you and Skip know, I have been asking these questions for months, so if you don't mind, please provide the answers to all the public figures and journalists etc... copied above;

...How much is it going to cost next year?

How much has been spent on fundraising, outside consultants and investment management fees relative to what is being paid out to students?

What is the anticipated average per student scholarship expected to be for Guilford County's 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019's graduating classes?

Why are most of Say Yes to Education's investments located in "CENTRAL AMERICA  AND THE CARIBBEAN"?

How much money does Say Yes Guilford have on hand to fund the scholarships?

As the number of dollars provided for scholarships should about double again after the first year, and then double again in four years, how is Say Yes going to pay for it?

What will the monies be invested in and at what cost for Guilford County's graduates?

How many students are expected to receive a "Full Tuition Scholarship Incentive" for 2016's graduating class?

Why has Say Yes, the City of Greensboro and Guilford County Schools so far declined to provide the above information?

Why has Say Yes, the City of Greensboro and Guilford County Schools so far declined to state if  Say Yes Guilford is to be considered a fiduciary over the investment assets?

Why has Say Yes, the City of Greensboro and Guilford County Schools so far declined to report if the investment managers will be considered fiduciaries?

How is it the Say Yes performance is so far above George Weiss' fund, which is where Say Yes' money is invested?
Those who don't know what they should at this juncture should be ashamed of themselves


George Hartzman
To contact the operating committee, email

Dr. Nora Carr, Co-Interim Superintendent, Guilford County Schools
Eugene Chasin, COO, Say Yes to Education
Dr. Larry Czarda, President, Greensboro College
Greg Demko, City Manager, City of High Point
Alan Duncan, Chair, Guilford County Board of Education
Mona Edwards, COO, Community Foundation of Greater Greensboro
Anthony “Tony” Graham, Representative, Grassroots Parent Coordinators
Kevin Gray, President, Weaver Foundation
Clarence Grier, Deputy County Manager, Guilford County
Dr. Nakia Hardy, Chief Academic Officer, Guilford County Schools
Barbara Harris, Interim Assistant City Manger, City of Greensboro
Angela Waiters Jackson, President, Guilford County Association of Educators
Winston McGregor, Executive Director, Guilford Education Alliance
Aisha Miller, Representative, Guilford Parent Academy Title 1 Parents
David Miller, Representative, High Point Community Foundation
Mindy Oakley, Director, Edward M. Armfield Foundation
Alan Parker, Principal, Southwest Guilford High School
Dr. Randy Parker, President, Guilford Technical Community College
Cheryl Smith, Representative, Guilford County Council of PTAs
Mary Vigue, Executive Director, Say Yes Guilford

Contact Say Yes staff by calling 336-814-2233
or via email at

Mary Vigue, Executive Director
Felicia Andrews, Community Relations Specialist
Dr. Kristen Christman, Scholarship Director
Kinsley Fraser, Scholarship Coordinator
Casey Harris, Data and Evaluation Director
Connie Kisling, Office Manager
Keith G. Pemberton, Family and Student Engagement Director
Donnie Turlington, Communications Director
Thursday, September 22, 2016; City of Greensboro Public Information Request on Say Yes to Education; "Say Yes to Education designee on the Operating Committee, Scholarship Board and Community Leadership Council"

The request is still unanswered

As the City, on Tuesday, November 17, 2015, admitted a government employee is "a designee on the Operating Committee, Scholarship Board and Community Leadership Council and through the development of taskforces", please identify the employee for each committee and provide all documents and communications of said employee or employees with anyone with Say Yes to Education, Say Yes Guilford, anyone from Guilford County Schools concerning Say Yes, anyone from Guilford County's government concerning Say Yes, and any contacts with Mary Vigue and Donnie Turlington both before and after Vigue and Turlington's employment with the City, from January 1, 2015 to the present.

Please provide the information by electronic means.


One Dollar; "Resolution Requesting Approval of Lease Agreement with Say Yes to Education"; Tuesday, November 17, 2015

George 'Say Yes to Education' Weiss and Associates;"...the hedge fund portfolio reportedly returned more than 50% per year on an annual basis", except for when it didn't

Friday, November 11, 2016 7:40 pm; "Council for Say Yes will hold public meeting Monday"

The News and Record's Jessie Pounds; "Guilford County Schools' seniors can sign up for Say Yes scholarships"

Former City of Greensboro Assistant Manager Mary Vigue used her position to personally profit via Say Yes to Education and Say Yes Guilford

Ponzi needs a new town; Jul 25, 2016 4:59 AM; "Say Yes to Education" program could mean free college for Louisville students"

Susan Ladd's oldest daughter appears to be in line for a Say Yes to Education scholarship

There hasn't been a news story out of Louisville on Say Yes to Education since; Boris hasn't called with questions yet

The City of Greensboro's former Assistant Manager Mary Vigue, now Say Yes Guilford Director, was directly responsible, along with City Council and other City staff, for doing Greensboro's employees wrong

"City of Greensboro, mayor sued over access to public records" by Roch Smith Jr.

More on what Say Yes to Education promised Guilford County students and parents

Let's not forget what Guilford County School parents and students were told; "New Say Yes to Education partnership means free college tuition for Guilford County students"

Remember what they told the kids; "Guilford County Says YES to Education - and Yes to College Tuition!"

How it began in Guilford County, only different; "City, schools working on $100 million effort to provide free college to Louisvillians"

"See Jane Lose"; How Say Yes to Education's Mary Vigue, Greensboro Mayor Nancy Vaughan and Tony Wilkins betrayed the City's employees

Gag order and censorship for Guilford County teachers by Say Yes to Education and Angela Jackson of Guilford County's Association of Educators

If Say Yes Guilford has $35 million,...

$832,000 Payoff; "Buffalo Public Schools award the contract to Say Yes for community program"
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:54 PM, George wrote:

An honor sir,

Why is there more than $25 million in the Weiss Investment Strategy?

Why only one investment manager?

Why is almost $29 million located in "Central America and the Caribbean"?

Where are the details of the individual scholarships?

How did investment income come to more than $10 million in 2012 and $7 million in 2011?

How are the 2012 returns possible on a little more than $28 million?

Where are the 2013 and 2014 990s?

Why so much compensation?

Why so much "Organizational Strategic Review?

At first glance, it looks like a Ponzi scheme.

Why would you hire someone who just finished keeping investment fees high for City of Greensboro employees?
Richard (Skip) Moore's misleading statements; "8 Things to Know About "Say Yes To Education"

Oblivious Buffalo News Editorial Board "Say Yes is leading a vital improvement in the number of college-bound students"

If you graduate and get accepted to college, 
your tuition will be paid to the last dollar.

Susan Ladd
Greensboro's News and Record
to a random high school student

Why did the Hartford Chapter of Say Yes close in June 2005?

Alan Duncan and Amos Quick; "Through Say Yes to Education in Syracuse, Contreras has worked with her community..."

Wednesday, June 29, 2016; New Guilford County Schools Superintendent Sharon Contreras' = Say Yes to Education, Say Yes Guilford and Say Yes Syracuse = Say Yes now owns Guilford County Schools

Thursday, June 30, 2016; Say Yes to Education's amazing, quite unbelievable investment performance; This is a George Weiss special

Thursday, June 30, 2016; John Hammer on new Guilford County Schools Superintendent Sharon Contreras and Say Yes to Education

Wednesday, June 29, 2016; WEDNESDAY, JULY 29TH 2015; "The Say Yes to Education program has closed its Syracuse office"

Thursday, June 30, 2016; Say Yes To Education-- The E-mails: Part 1

Friday, July 1, 2016; Say Yes To Education-- The E-mails: Part 2